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What is the Clave rhythm?

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Posted 2013-02-27T17:26:16.0Z by Mac M11,188
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What is the best way to describe and teach the clave?

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  • It's Bo Diddley......Jefe 2013-02-28T04:56:57.0Z
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  • Yes, i have often heard that it is referred to as the "Bo Diddley" beat, thank youMac M 2013-02-28T15:29:58.0Z
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Reply — Posted 2013-02-28T00:19:28.0Z
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Ed D2,558
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In one 2 measure phrase of 4/4 time, beat 1, the "and" of beat 2, and beat 4 in the first measure, beat 2 and the "and" of beat three in the second measure  is one of more common used clave rhythms. Often heard in bossa novas, like " The Girl from Impanema".

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  • Thank you Ed, first measure has two notes, second measure has 3 notes for the 2-3 and vice versa for the 3-2 arrangement. I still have trouble counting the rhumba clave at times and more trouble identifying if it is 3-2 or 2-3, especially with the pause the rhumba has...any suggestions?Mac M 2013-02-28T15:28:59.0Z
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Reply — Posted 2013-02-28T04:25:07.0Z (edited 2013-02-28T04:27:46.0Z)
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Jeff E13,506
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Clave means Key or code in spanish. In Afro-cuban or salsa music it is as fundamental to that music as swing in jazz. It is the KEY to that music. 

There are several basic types of the Clave:

The most common is "son" clave: 

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Another common feel is Rumba Clave:

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Clave feels come in either 3-2 or 2-3 flavors. ie beginning with 3 notes in the first bar and 2 (3 2) in the second, or the reverse....2 in the first and 3 (2 3) in the second.

This is a Son Clave in 2-3

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Brazilian Bossa Nova and samba also uses a type of clave feel that can come in both 2-3, and 3-2.

a Brazilian Clave might be like this:

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Sometimes in a song the Clave will reverse, starting with 3-2, and changing to a 2-3....

It's something you really need to listen to inorder to get the groove.....

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  • It seems like with the rhumba clave there is a pause, depending 3-2 or 2-3 side of things, and i have trouble identifying where it should land...any suggestions?Mac M 2013-02-28T15:24:14.0Z
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Reply — Posted 2013-02-28T04:47:48.0Z (edited 2013-03-01T23:44:06.0Z)
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Ghost R1,526
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This is a pretty good explanation:

http://musiclessons.com/youtube/share.cfm?v=eel1mqQrJIQ&t=clave

http://musiclessons.com/youtube/share.cfm?v=U8W9E1xgNaw&t=clave

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  • These videos are very helpful, thanksMac M 2013-02-28T15:24:45.0Z
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Reply — Posted 2013-02-28T04:50:45.0Z
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JP13,143
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Thanks for the notation! Here's a pretty decent video that explains it too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-tm497rXF4

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  • I like this guy! He grooves....Jefe 2013-02-28T04:58:36.0Z
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  • I agree, this guy does make some good groovy timesMac M 2013-02-28T15:25:32.0Z
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  • i love the counting. one, two, three, four, fiiiiiiive aaaanndd eightJeff E 2013-02-28T15:32:07.0Z
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  • that is a very effective way of counting, he should patent thatMac M 2013-02-28T18:47:56.0Z
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Reply — Posted 2013-02-28T15:30:45.0Z
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Mac M11,188
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What is the orgin of this rhythm?

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